Friday, February 5, 2010

Scientists: Do you believe that only science can provide true knowledge?

Is there more to life than what has verifiable facts and empirical data? Do you hold any value to things or ideas that cannot be proven?





You theists need not bother with a reply that God/Bible provides all anyone needs to know. I'm trying to understand the dichotomy of faith AND science from a purely scientific standpoint.Scientists: Do you believe that only science can provide true knowledge?
Firstly can i say Im so glad you added your comment about theists need not bother with a reply. You can’t ask a question on here without some crazy nutcase putting down to god.





Ok, firstly knowledge is always true, if it wasn’t it wouldn’t be knowledge, but belief.





To answer the question, do I believe if science is the only thing that can give rise to knowledge, then yes, by definition the outcome of science is knowledge. I cannot think of another example of something else that gives rise to knowledge consistently. Art can give rise to creativity, if you want to class that as knowledge. I don’t personally think creativity is knowledge, but that is another interesting question to tackle another day. Religious people would like to say religion gives rise to knowledge. But I’m sure your aware that religion is a belief and will carry on being so until it is proven scientifically……which classifies as science giving the knowledge not religion anyway.





I do hold value to some things that can’t be proven, like the big bang theory, but the value I hold to that is based on a probabilistic assessments of the current facts. I would in no way connect this to the value that religious people in god as the assessment they make for their belief is far from probabilistic.





I think faith in science is a lot more reliable and organized than the faith of religion. Scientific faith is based on mathematically proven theories or probabilistic outcomes. Religious faith is based on “the word of god” (a book without much reason for credibility) and hope. It can also be based on fear. (fear of going to hell if he/she doesn’t believe)





I hope this answers your question.Scientists: Do you believe that only science can provide true knowledge?
The science is just one way from many others te get the knowledge.


The scientist are still veeeeeery - very away from the true knowledge!


And this (the true knowledge) is ';the everything'; and ';the nothing'; in the same time. When you say everything, you delimitate it, and this meaning that always remains an option to add something more; but nothing is everything, in nothing u can have anything, with no limit.


And when u get it, when u arrive there, then u can say u really arrived to the true knowledge.
science gives you rules and facts ,but the more facts you reach the more questions will appear ,and you will need more and more experiments and researches to prove more facts and ask more questions till you reach Point in which you will ask and can not reach an answer .at this point you should know as a human you will not reach the complete knowledge.
Let's see what they say:





First of all:


The man of science is a poor philosopher...Albert Einstein.





Second:


Anybody who has been seriously engaged is scientific work of any kind realizes that over the entrance to the gates of the temple of science are written the words: 'Ye must have faith'...Max Planck.





Third:


Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true...Niels Bohr.





This is why:


I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance...Socrates.





Because science is but a fraction of knowledge, and knowledge is but a fraction of ignorance. Apparently some so-called scientists can't see that.





Good luck!0!
Science provides a method, nothing more. People can be faced with the same verifiable facts and empirical data and still come to different conclusions or knowledge. Humans can also experience confirmation bias choosing to ignore evidence to the contrary. Scientific methodologies can be flawed.
Science provides techniques.


Science provides some knowledge.


True knowledge is still far ahead.

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