Friday, February 12, 2010

Do you think true wisdom or knowledge should be hidden in riddles and parables?

Thinking of the vagueness of the bible and the vast number of interpretations, makes me consider that any real truth should be plain. Wrapping ideas in infinitely twistable stories makes no sense. Shouldn't the truth of things be simple?Do you think true wisdom or knowledge should be hidden in riddles and parables?
These stories were told to teach people the value of a complex set of principles in a simple way.


But, yes the varied interpretations that have come out with time has layered their true content with a kinda flowery complexity.


These riddles or parables can guide us to some extent but the greater part of the journey has to be determined by ourselves by seeking for the untapped stores of wisdom within our self.Do you think true wisdom or knowledge should be hidden in riddles and parables?
Yes, I agree. You need to get a bible which is translated almost exactly how it was written, rather then the way the King Jimmy bible writes it.
It works for me.
it is plain... you just fail to understand it





so who's fault is it?
';Those who cannot feel the littleness of great things in themselves are apt to overlook the greatness of little things in others.'; ~Kakuzo Okakura
Had to be otherwise it would never have gotten past the censorship of society through history. In fact much of it has been severely modified.
God alledgedly managed some straight-forward language in the Commandments. ';Thou shalt not...'; really isn't open to interpretation. So why would he intentionally allow a confusing Bible? It makes no sense.
No.


Don't think so.


Just living human kind did not master our creator's universal communication system


Were living in misery with faulty communication system.


How those who wrote all the cheap-skate ghostly stories back in the past caught themselves with pants down without being aware of it.


That was how the children all got caught without being aware of it.


Luke 8.10,17


When living human kind do not even know how to create our creator's universal communication system.


Luke 9.25,55-56,60


What do you think?
The problem is, that truth is revealed in example. ';The Truth'; is so hard to pin down, and often so subjective that the only real way to illustrate it is with stories.





I think that if Jesus had come out and just said certain things the way they really are, people would have had more reason, room and confidence in disputing what he said.





If you look around, the ';wise men'; of any ancient culture communicated the same way. It just makes a bigger, and perhaps more emotional impact to tell a story about one lost sheep or about fruit laden branches.
Do you think true physics and mathematics knowledge should be hidden in those complicated formulas that make your brain hurt? Why isn't that easier?
As Plato said there is no such thing as wisdom or knowledge because if you ask someone enough questions they will finally admit that they dont know. So should lies be hidden in parables? No they should be told straight out
Christ said he spoke in parables to allow those that were ready to hear the message hear and understand it. Maybe some people cant quite grasp or follow a harder concept and throwing it at them when they arent ready would discourage their learning and faith instead of encouraging it.





If you tried to teach a 2nd grader algebra before they even had their multiplication tables down how frustrated would they get?
when those goat-herders wrote the bible, maybe they were smarter than we think they were. They came up with a brilliant way of creating enough confusion over their scripture that no one would ever be able to agree and the debate over translation and interpretation would rage on for millenia. Either that or they were spectacularly dumb, and just started pulling random fantasies out of the air...you know...like that whole Noah's Ark deal.
Gaia...it forces you to think on a deeper level and concentrate for meaning...think of this...you are at church and hear a sermon and think a friend of yours should have been there to hear it because it applies to them...NOW know this in that situation the person who thinks another should have heard the sermon is not correct...the sermon is for them and that is why they are hearing it...NOW back to your comment/question (the part about the different interpretations) each person perceives what they need to...I think it is given to your mind a certain way because that is how you need it...now some things are plain like thou shall not steal...and others require time and thought for revalation...
The thing I like about riddles and parables is that they are not black or white, but they fall within the whole spectum of gray. There already is truth and wisdom in the riddles and parables from all the corners of the Earth, so, ';should they,'; is moot.
Jesus spoke in parables to make it easier to explain Gods character to people. There is nothing vague about God's word. He is very clear on how much he loves us and wants a relationship with us. That is why he sent Jesus His son to die for YOU and me. He knew that was the only way a relationship between us could be restored. I hope you find Him for yourself.. Don't let the devil continue to deceive you with his lies.....
You'd think. But then they'd be easier to disprove. We wouldn't want a clear stupid message that can easily be discarded as useless, when a convoluted stupid message will survive the ages.
Every smart person likes a challenge , you know dig a little deeper ect...
You mean simple like this ??





Two parents of 6 year old children both decide to tell thier children the truth about Santa Claus.





First parent says '; Jane there is no Santa Claus';


Jane argues that there is.





He did tell the simple truth





Second Parent tells a tale of a fat man in a sleigh taking


gifts to all the homes in the world in just one night. Being sure


to emphasis the amount of toys and the size of the whole world.





The 6 year old responds ';How does he do that ?';
One cannot cast pearls before swine...so, simply put, wisdom cannot be given to those who either will not understand it or who will not use it wisely. One must be ready to hear the powerful messages of Truth...and...to appply Truth as it is intended to be used. Over the ages, all wisdom teachings have been guarded and held to the responsible few...for exactly this reason. As it is said, ';When the student is ready, the teacher will appear,'; so it is true of that which is ';hidden'; to the masses...those who are ready will begin to discover the truth behind the riddles and parables. There are too many who subvert to selfish purposes all powers revealed to them. Those who are ';ready'; to hear Truth are those who discern no division or separation one from another, but are willing to apply the wisdoms to all beings, including to themselves...for the good of all. We must grow into preparedness, much as a kindergartener must evolve to high school readiness. Premature knowledge has no hope of perfect application.





i am Sirius
It is easier to confuse the masses


that way.
Writing to all sorts of people in different time periods and different nations would be/should be quite a task. Some of the problem is that the Bible has multiple purposes. It is a history lesson, morals teacher, and instrument of praise among others. I understand what you are saying that truth should be simple and clear. Yet, visit another country and you can see people thinking in whole different way, sometimes beyond comprehension. People so often ask why aren't all good people rewarded but good is defined differently by different people. Slave owners use to think that were doing good by taking people out of primitive societies and giving them a so called civilized life. I think that what ever awaits us is beyond comprehension and what we see written is colored by our experiences in life. There are some favorites of mine and that is the comparison of building your life like one would build a house upon a good foundation and giving the government their due and God his due.

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